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Post by SYN_Kammo on Jan 28, 2011 17:58:15 GMT
(Made a new thread to avoid spamming the news section.) Thx Koll & Ricky! If I can bother you a bit still Koll. What do you consider a high end card? What is the benefit of a SSD memory in playing? I was constructing this: www.silentrig.com/cart/General opinions appreciated. Graphic card good enough? CPU good enough? Am I missing any component? Thanks in advance!
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Post by SYN_Kollwitz on Jan 28, 2011 18:25:32 GMT
the link shows an empty shopping cart so i can't comment on that. An SSD harddrive loads stuff way faster than a regular one. Put the OS and your most used programs on it and your PC feels much faster. In game the differences are much smaller and the new regular drives (Spinpoint F3 for instance) are usually quick enough. Skip it if budget is an issue. High end cards for me are the NV GTX570 and GTX580, and the AMD HD6970. But only if you are planning to use a high resolution. Please note that the 5-series is not (yet) on the supported hardware list of Cliffs of Duty (thank you Flashman Remember that the fastest component is only as fast as the slowest allows it to be. Get parts that work together well and you have a stable system that is well balanced. If you have more questions i'm more than happy to answer, or hop on vent! Cheers, Koll PS i collected some info on the net to give you an indication of price (in the Netherlands) when buying from online shops # Product Prijs 1 Intel Core i5 2500K € 196,00 1 Asrock P67 Extreme4 € 130,40 1 Super Flower Golden Green SF-650P14XE € 108,34 1 Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ, 1TB € 47,00 1 OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 3.5" SSD 90GB € 152,59 1 Sony Optiarc AD-7260S Zwart € 16,99 1 Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced € 78,03 1 Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B € 31,95 1 GeIL Value PLUS GVP38GB1333C9DC € 72,55 1 Sapphire HD6970 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E € 319,00 € 1.152,85 You'll have an extremely fast rig (with SSD) for under 1200,- (without keyboard, mouse, display and speakers). NOTE: I found this online, and haven't heard of the PSU brand, any new PSU from a well known brand with good tests is fine AFAIK...
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Post by SYN_Kammo on Jan 28, 2011 19:33:58 GMT
Oh sorry mate! And thx:)
Here is what I was thinking: cpu Intel Core i5-2500K, 4 x 3.30GHz, 95W, boxed 217 e cpu cooling Scythe Mugen 2 Rev.B 40e Mobo ASRock P67 Extreme4, P67 139 e Ram 2 x Elixir 2GB PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3) 40 e DVD LG GH22NS50 DVD-RW 20 e Power Corsair AX 750W 157e Case Coolermaster HAF 912 Plus 78 e Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX460 SOC 1024MB 209 e Win 7 64 bit 110 e building cost (I don't trust myself) 2yr warrant 65 e
Cost about 1140 euros
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Post by SYN_Kammo on Jan 28, 2011 19:41:31 GMT
Prices seem cheaper there. I can allways buy more ram but guess 4GB is fine for now. What do you think about the graphic card? It's not top notch but good enough? And am I missing any components (I'm a bit clueless about computers)? You've been a great help and I truely appreciate that mate
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Post by SYN_Kollwitz on Jan 28, 2011 19:59:37 GMT
forgot to add the OS... good call Please check that you get the fastest RAM that runs on the motherboard, the timings dont really make a difference, but the Mhz do. I've heard some good things on the 460, so i guess thats fine, what resolution do you work on? Besides, it's the easiest thing to upgrade in 2 years time. I think you need a harddrive as well...
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Post by SYN_Kollwitz on Jan 28, 2011 20:30:34 GMT
and before i forget: get more opinions from others as well...
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Post by bliss on Jan 30, 2011 11:23:23 GMT
Kammo,
IMO you should rob a bank, in the nude of course, then you can buy any pc you want.
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Post by SYN_Kammo on Jan 30, 2011 19:04:19 GMT
After doing tons of endless reading and crawling through various blazeh blazeh threads I have come to conclusion to wait for a while. I want to see some real time footage with info about wich specs were used. Really need better picture to know what I really want to aim for -expensive computer=1500e (maybe with no huge improvment) vs. affordable computer=1000. i5/7 2500k/2600 is what I'm gonna get anyways. And good Mobo like ASRock P67 Extreme4, P67 with SLI and Crossfire. Choosing the GPU is the one that is hard to decide. For me it's hard to perceive he differences between GTX 460/470/480 and GTX 560/570/580. For example is it such a advantage to get 580 over 470 and pay over 200Euros more... And Bliss ofcourse I did try that allready. But they spotted me 2 blocks away from the bank cause I couldn't conceal my huge barrel. Writing this from the joint... Thx Koll one more time you've been a great help:)
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Post by SYN_Speck on Jan 31, 2011 19:45:49 GMT
That i5 2500k is a great-looking CPU. I have an i5-760 (just installed a few months ago) that I've been very happy with; the 2500k looks like a big step up for about the same price.
As Koll said, be sure to get 1333 or 1600mhz (or even 2000) RAM depending on your mobo.
And I think it's a good call to wait a bit to get better judgment on the GPU. If you have the patience ;p the safest bet would be to wait until Storm over Dover, or Cliffs of War, or whatever they're calling it now comes out, and get community feedback as to whether it's worth the extra money to go up to a 5xx series. Who has that patience, though? We wants our toys NOW!
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Post by SYN_Bofors on Jan 31, 2011 20:25:53 GMT
Hey Kammo, mein Freund (I'm learning German again ) I’ve never been a hardware expert. But as you know I’m also looking for a new comp. So I thought maybe I can help you a bit. Most components you can choose by yourself, like processor, hard drive, motherboard, etc. The question always is – what graphic card? Believe me I’ve looked through many, many websites searching for an answer and I’m still not 100% certain. However this site helped me a lot: nvision.pl/Test-kart-graficznych-DX11-i-DX10-20102011--Articles-405-ndetails-1.htmlI don’t expect you will read the article which is in polish , but on the first page at the bottom there is a table of contents. If you click at points from 10 to 26 you will see a performance test of each of the analyzed card. This is a test of 33 graphic cards in 13 games using 3 different resolutions (click on each resolution to see results). The idea is simple – the higher score = the better card. What is cool about this test - different results in each resolution. You know what monitor you have (or you will buy) and this gives you the answer what resolution you will end up with. Finally, in the article summary they categorized cards on the price basis. In the most expensive category they said that GeForce GTX 580 is (was? – this test was made on 24th December 2010) truly the best (unfortunately too expensive for me) They also said that Radeonowi HD 5970 is in some cases better, but only in ultra-high resolutions like 2560x1600. In the „cheaper” category the winner is GTX 570But for person like me where the price matters they said that it is not worth to “aim” in this category as the increase in performance is not as significant as you would expect looking at the cards price. And in the last category which I’m considering the most (above 250 EUR but below 300 EUR) the winner is GTX 470 1280 MB (GV-N470OC-13I), but Radeon HD 6870 is not far behind (and is using less energy). I’m sure before March prices will go down, but If I were buying new comp for myself right now I would go with GTX 470. This is because I have never been huge enthusiast of computer games, apart from simulators of course, so I don’t need a 'superb' hardware. But, just like you, I will wait and see for myself what CoD requirements really are before I make my choice. Cheers mate and I hope to “see you” soon! ps any comments appreciated
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Post by SYN_Kammo on Jan 31, 2011 23:45:48 GMT
Luv u guys:) Speck: 1333 seems to be good for my future MoBo to be. And it's also very cheap. Let's see if I have the patience to wait until the release. Bofors as you know I am most fluent in Polish so I'm not sure why you directed me to a site about a very beautiful love story of a Noble Princess falling in love with a peasant?? Are you trying to tell me something "between the lines"? Aaaanyways great link mate! That table showed (and your post) I should buy a 470 1024mb (costs around 230 euros here). Especially if I have too many ants in the pants to wait for the release. If it turns out it's not good enough I can allways get another gtx 470 (like you said the pricess should go down) and SLI it to get extra boost. But like allways it's not so simple. I read and Koll said that SLI don't necessarily work with every game.... But the general consensus among IL2 community (have you guys been following the discussions on the 1C/SimHQ forums? Wow! Lot's of miserable nutters there) seems to be CoD is CPU heavy rather than GPU so getting a sweet processor is the main thang to do. And thats what Mr. Cheddars pointed out also. Cheerious buddies
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Post by SYN_Jedders on Feb 1, 2011 10:49:11 GMT
ive got a gtx470 and its a lovely lovely cuddly thing of beauty. mind you its attached to an i7 so nerr
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Post by bliss on Feb 1, 2011 15:38:23 GMT
Jed, just post a screen shot that Mac posted of your PC. I'm sure Kammo will be jealous
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